really long journey?
Ricky: Yeah.
Karl: How long?
Ricky: Hours.
Steve: Very long in China. It’s a big country.
Karl: I wouldn’t. I couldn’t do that. I couldn’t do it. I’d have to hold it in or something. I mean when I was a young kid – I don’t know how young you are when you wear a nappy and that – but I remember that I didn’t like it, doing it in a pair of pants like that, a pair of nappies and that, and I used to have to. Even when I was too small to sort of get up on the toilet, because you’d fall in, me mam knew that I didn’t like nappies and I used to just go in the corner, just near the kitchen, in this thing like a litter tray. Like cats have. It wasn’t like that but that’s the same sort of idea and I’d go there and I’d do me thing and me mam used to say, ‘Oh he’s going there. Don’t look at him.’ Because it put me off. You know, like cats don’t like being watched when they do it.
Ricky: When they go in their litter tray in the kitchen?
Karl: No, no, they don’t like it.
Ricky: What, so you were just like a little feral kid? Just running around and going in the litter tray, covering it up, and then running up the curtain and eating a sweet at the top of the pelmet?
Karl: No, but nobody likes being watched and that’s what I’m saying. If you’re sat on a train and you’re knocking one out and that and everyone’s looking at you, I don’t think it’ll catch on.
Ricky: Well it has caught on. They are just sitting there, reading the paper, doing Sudoku, and they’re looking round as they are going and they are thinking, ‘Oh no one knows I’m going.’ Everyone’s thinking that and everyone’s going.
Steve: It’s partly because there are a hundred and twenty million peasants from China’s vast rural areas who swarm into the cities for work, and so that sheer number of people means that the trains are so overcrowded.
Karl: I mean what are we getting to? What’s going on in the world that this is happening? I mean people have always had to travel for ages. I just don’t understand why there isn’t a toilet on it. We’re going backwards. We’re going backwards.
Ricky laughs .
Karl: Aren’t we? Why isn’t there a toilet on it?
Steve: Maybe there is but maybe people are thinking that the queue is going to take forever. If you have got 125 million people …
Karl: Yeah, but not everybody wants to go at once. I mean I know the Chinese and all that are at the forefront of everything that goes on in the world, inventing stuff first, but this isn’t one of the best that they’ve come up with.
Ricky: What have they invented then, the Chinese?
Karl: Loads of stuff, haven’t they?
Ricky: Well I was just asking you. You seem quite educated on the subject.
Karl: They did them cat mop things that I told you about.
Ricky: Brilliant.
Steve: This is where you put mops on the feet of cats? Was that right?
Karl: Yeah, and they wander about the house, clean up and that. Wash the floor for you whilst they’re pottering about. They’ve done, like, hats with umbrellas on ’em. I mean they are known for coming up with stuff first.
Ricky: My first thought was gunpowder. But cats with mops is good as well.
‘I don’t think they need to do that.’
Steve: I can’t remember when we were discussing this but we talked about well-known phrases and quotes from the past. Karl, what do you take by the well-known saying, ‘A stitch in time saves nine’?
Karl: You see, I don’t think I’ve picked up on a lot of these sayings that have been thrown about sort of willy-nillily.
Ricky: ‘Willy-nillily’?
Steve: ‘Willy-nillinily’, okay.
Ricky: ‘Willy-nillily’!
Ricky laughs .
Ricky: But what does ‘willy-nilly’ mean?
Karl: Just sort of like, throwing it about all over the place.
Ricky: What do you mean? What does the term ‘willy-nilly’ mean?
Karl: It just sort of means, you know, care free.
Ricky: That’s right, yeah. So you
Ricky: Yeah.
Karl: How long?
Ricky: Hours.
Steve: Very long in China. It’s a big country.
Karl: I wouldn’t. I couldn’t do that. I couldn’t do it. I’d have to hold it in or something. I mean when I was a young kid – I don’t know how young you are when you wear a nappy and that – but I remember that I didn’t like it, doing it in a pair of pants like that, a pair of nappies and that, and I used to have to. Even when I was too small to sort of get up on the toilet, because you’d fall in, me mam knew that I didn’t like nappies and I used to just go in the corner, just near the kitchen, in this thing like a litter tray. Like cats have. It wasn’t like that but that’s the same sort of idea and I’d go there and I’d do me thing and me mam used to say, ‘Oh he’s going there. Don’t look at him.’ Because it put me off. You know, like cats don’t like being watched when they do it.
Ricky: When they go in their litter tray in the kitchen?
Karl: No, no, they don’t like it.
Ricky: What, so you were just like a little feral kid? Just running around and going in the litter tray, covering it up, and then running up the curtain and eating a sweet at the top of the pelmet?
Karl: No, but nobody likes being watched and that’s what I’m saying. If you’re sat on a train and you’re knocking one out and that and everyone’s looking at you, I don’t think it’ll catch on.
Ricky: Well it has caught on. They are just sitting there, reading the paper, doing Sudoku, and they’re looking round as they are going and they are thinking, ‘Oh no one knows I’m going.’ Everyone’s thinking that and everyone’s going.
Steve: It’s partly because there are a hundred and twenty million peasants from China’s vast rural areas who swarm into the cities for work, and so that sheer number of people means that the trains are so overcrowded.
Karl: I mean what are we getting to? What’s going on in the world that this is happening? I mean people have always had to travel for ages. I just don’t understand why there isn’t a toilet on it. We’re going backwards. We’re going backwards.
Ricky laughs .
Karl: Aren’t we? Why isn’t there a toilet on it?
Steve: Maybe there is but maybe people are thinking that the queue is going to take forever. If you have got 125 million people …
Karl: Yeah, but not everybody wants to go at once. I mean I know the Chinese and all that are at the forefront of everything that goes on in the world, inventing stuff first, but this isn’t one of the best that they’ve come up with.
Ricky: What have they invented then, the Chinese?
Karl: Loads of stuff, haven’t they?
Ricky: Well I was just asking you. You seem quite educated on the subject.
Karl: They did them cat mop things that I told you about.
Ricky: Brilliant.
Steve: This is where you put mops on the feet of cats? Was that right?
Karl: Yeah, and they wander about the house, clean up and that. Wash the floor for you whilst they’re pottering about. They’ve done, like, hats with umbrellas on ’em. I mean they are known for coming up with stuff first.
Ricky: My first thought was gunpowder. But cats with mops is good as well.
‘I don’t think they need to do that.’
Steve: I can’t remember when we were discussing this but we talked about well-known phrases and quotes from the past. Karl, what do you take by the well-known saying, ‘A stitch in time saves nine’?
Karl: You see, I don’t think I’ve picked up on a lot of these sayings that have been thrown about sort of willy-nillily.
Ricky: ‘Willy-nillily’?
Steve: ‘Willy-nillinily’, okay.
Ricky: ‘Willy-nillily’!
Ricky laughs .
Ricky: But what does ‘willy-nilly’ mean?
Karl: Just sort of like, throwing it about all over the place.
Ricky: What do you mean? What does the term ‘willy-nilly’ mean?
Karl: It just sort of means, you know, care free.
Ricky: That’s right, yeah. So you
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