had to cool him down. Then he starts talking straight. He talks better then.â
Other violent encounters took place outside the group meetings. One morning, for example, Joseph and Leon were each pushing a cart, Joseph in the lead. As Joseph rounded a turn in the tunnel at a fairly fast clip, he let go of the cart, which slammed against the wall and careened wildly.
âWatch your cart!â Leon shouted. âYou ⦠Bless you! You with the unsound mind!â
A few moments later the foreman, a hospital employee, came up and asked Joseph what had happened. âI just stopped my cart against the wall, thatâs all.â
âSir,â said Leon, âI believe what happened wasââ
âDonât listen to him!â Joseph interrupted. âHeâs crazy!â
âYouâre the crazy one!â
âYouâre crazy,â Joseph yelled. âYouâre a shit-ass! Thatâs what you are, a shit-ass!â Then he grabbed Leon by the coat lapels with both hands and slammed him hard against the laundry cart.
The men were immediately separated. Leon, his left hand drawn back in a loose fist, glared angrily at Joseph. Joseph was quickly removed by an aide, Leon shouting after him: âBegone, sir, or youâll be dropped!â Joseph shouted back: âYouâve got the unsound mind!â
When interviewed later concerning the incident, Leon once again described it accurately. I asked him if he had felt like hitting back, and he replied, as he did before, that hitting back is not his department but his uncleâs. When I asked him why Joseph had hit him, he was able to explain that too. âIt was two-thirds imposition and one-third bullheadedness,â Leon replied.
Joseph was interviewed next and he gave his version: âRex started raising hell with me that I had no business to leave the truck there, so I jumped on him. I didnât hit him. I just shook him. That man is sick. No joke! He says everything contrary. Nobody can talk to him.â
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Youâre not getting along too well with Rex?
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âNegativism exasperates you. Clyde is better than Leon; he has stopped claiming heâs God so much. And you, Dr. Rokeach, give me a hand too. After Clyde talks, you ask me to say something and it gives me a chance for correction.â
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Are you getting stronger or weaker?
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âStronger. That Rex, you gotta be careful with him. He says heâs God. I take it away from him. Why, a mind like this could turn the world upside down in no time!â
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Are you still laughing it off, or not?
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âI do something else. I stood up there and told him I was God.â
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Changing your tactics?
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âIn a way, yeah.â
The final physical altercation occurred on August 17; this time the participants were Joseph and Clyde. It was initiated by a verbal exchange, concerning âfalse Jesus Christs and false gods,â which consisted mainly of childish threats, name-calling, and obscenities, such as: âYouâre the biggest liar,â âYouâre not going to burn me, you keep talking like that and Iâm going to knock the shit out of you,â âIâm the boss,â âYou never were,â etc. At one point Clyde lunged at Joseph and the two went into a clinch until they were separated. Leon took the scuffle in, sitting in his usual chair, not moving a muscle, his face and body immobile and passive, as if he were watching something from far away. Before long the quarrel flared up again.
âYouâre just a lot of shit to me, thatâs all!â Joseph shouted.
âYou canât say that word to me!â Clyde answered.
âI have my rights,â Joseph insisted.
âI own the hospital,â Clyde said.
âJust because you donât want to work for the English cause.â
âDoggone right I donât want to work for England,â Clyde asserted.
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