They were subtle movements telling Buie that Josh was hiding something.
The detective asked Josh to pick up where he had left off during an earlier interview. Buie asked Josh to finish what they had been talking about then. And it was clear here with Joshâs response to this question that Buie was definitely playing both sides against each other. A tactic any good cop would use in this same situation. Regarding this common method of law enforcement interviewing, Mike Mongeluzzo, another detective involved in the investigation, would later say, âThatâs not an attempt to play one against the otherâitâs an attempt to get the truth out of two people that are lying. . . .â
âSomething about ... ,â Josh said to Buie, âshe (Emilia) told you I took [Heather] in the trailer and I knocked on her door at four in the morning?â
âFive in the morning,â Buie corrected.
âBut it never happened,â Josh said.
âThatâs not true?â Buie asked, somewhat surprised.
âI never ... no. Iâm going to tell you something.... Thereâs no way I could kill that girl. I love her too damn much.â
Buie dropped his head. They were going backward.
After a few additional questions, Buie got back into what he claimed Emilia had told him concerning Josh being responsible for Heatherâs disappearance and ultimate demise. They talked about the trailer and Emiliaâs motherâs yardâthose piles of brush, newly excavated earth, junk lying around the property, debris, wood, tree limbs, sticks and dead trees. The way Buie played it with Josh was that Emilia had sold him out: Emilia had told the MCSO that Josh had killed Heather and her body was buried somewhere on Emiliaâs motherâs property. Why was Josh denying this?
Josh said no way. It didnât happen like that. He couldnât have done it.
âSo everything sheâs telling me is a lie?â Buie asked, clearly becoming impatient. He was frustrated that either Josh or Emiliaâor bothâhad been giving him the old-fashioned jerk-off.
âIf sheâs telling you that I took that girl in that trailer, thatâs a lie.â
âWhat about putting her in the hole?â Buie suggested.
âNo!â Josh snapped back.
âWhat about killing her?â
âNo!â
Buie backed up. He started from the top. âWhat about knocking on [Emiliaâs] window that morning?â
âNo. Listen. I know that family well enough. I can go to the door and knock. . . .â
âSo everything she is telling me is a lie?â Buie asked again.
âYes, sir. I didnât take that girl to that trailer and put her in a hole.â
âThe only person that has any means to do that is who?â Buie asked.
âHeather is my wife,â Josh said. âI would not kill her.â Josh sold it well. He made it sound as though he cared about Heather.
Buie talked about how he was just ârelaying stuff back and forth.â He explained that Emilia and other witnesses were giving him information he was trying to verify through Josh. A lot of that information, Buie seemed to say without coming out with it entirely, pointed directly back to Josh. The trail led to the husband. The MCSO was following that trail. How was Josh going to respond to all of these fingers pointed at him?
âWhere is [Emilia] now?â Josh asked.
âSheâs still here.â
âYou going to let her go home?â
âShe ainât going home,â Buie said. That was not necessarily true. Buie implied that Emilia wasnât going to be allowed to leave any time soon. The truth of the matter was that Emilia had not been placed under arrest. She could get up and leave whenever she wanted.
Buie then enlightened Josh by stating how the MCSO had caught him in ânumerous, numerous lies,â and there was some explaining that had to be done in order for
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